Posted on Oct 1, 2007
By Chris Hedges
If you are a young Muslim American and head off to the Middle East for a spell in a fundamentalist “madrassa,” or religious school, Homeland Security will probably greet you at the airport when you return. But if you are an American Jew and you join hundreds of teenagers from Europe and Mexico for an eight-week training course run by the Israel Defense Forces, you can post your picture wearing an Israeli army uniform and holding an automatic weapon on MySpace.
The Marva program, part summer camp part indoctrination, was launched in Israel in 1981. It allows participants, who must be Jewish and between the ages of 18 and 28, to fire weapons, live in military barracks in the Negev desert and saunter around in an Israeli military uniform saluting and taking long hikes with military packs. The Youth and Education Corps of the Israel Defense Forces run four 120-strong training sessions a year.
“Upon arrival, the participants experience an abrupt change into army life: wearing uniforms, accepting army discipline, and learning the programs and lessons integral to the program,” the Let Israelis Show You Israel Web site reads. “The program includes military content such as: navigation, field training, weapons training, shooting ranges, marches and more, as well as educational content such as: Zionism, Jewish Identity, history and knowledge of the land of Israel. All of this is taught in Hebrew in an intensive eight weeks.”
“The participants finish the program after completing a short, intensive, exhilarating military experience that allows them to taste Israel in a way that they never could before—as part of the Israel Defense Forces,” the site reads. “They leave the program with a feeling of belonging and a strong connection to Israel, and many return to Israel to continue the connection that was created in the framework of the Marva course.”
There are, of course, gushing testimonials about the program.
“I spent the first few days of Marva doubting my decision, wondering why I had come, wondering if there was any way out. With all of the running, yelling orders, discipline and Hebrew, I felt horribly out of place,” writes Canadian David Roth of his summer. “It was a completely different world from the one I was used to. All that changed, though, by the end of the first week. We had our first ‘Masa’ (Hike). It was very hard, but at the end, we all knew, our M16s were waiting for us at the ‘tekes’ (Ceremony). We got through the 8 kilometers and had our ‘tekes’ and got our guns. It felt amazing, and from that point on Marva was incredible.”
How have we reacted when we discovered that American Muslims were being taught in a foreign country to fire machine guns at paper figures and simulate military maneuvers? And what about the summer schools in Gaza organized by Islamic Jihad designed to train young Palestinians in the basics of military life? These Gaza camps, uncovered in 2001, were widely denounced by Israel as proof that the Palestinians were teaching their children to hate and kill.
The argument in favor of camps in Israel, as opposed to camps in Pakistan, is that these young men and women are not going to come back and use what they have learned to harm Americans. They are not terrorists. Muslims, however, have not cornered the market on terrorism and violence. Radical Jews have also been involved in terrorist attacks in Israel and the United States.
I discovered an American in Israel in 1989 named Robert Manning. A huge, burly man, Manning was living in the West Bank Jewish settlement of Kiyrat Arba. When I found him he was carrying a pistol, a large knife strapped to his leg and an M-16 assault rifle. He was part of a Jewish terrorist group called Committee for Protection and Safety of the Highways that set up ad hoc roadblocks and pulled Palestinians from cars to beat and often shoot them. He was a follower of Meir Kahane, the leader of the Jewish Defense League, who was implicated in terrorist attacks in the United States and Israel. Manning served as a reservist in the Israel Defense Forces in the West Bank.
Manning was wanted in California for murder. He had been charged in a 1980 mail-bomb killing as part of his involvement in the Jewish Defense League. The bomb was intended for the owner of a local computer firm, but the package holding the device was opened by the firm’s secretary, Patricia Wilkerson, who was killed instantly by the blast.
Manning, full of bluster and a bitter racism toward Arabs, used as his pseudonym the name of the FBI agent in charge of his case, a bit of humor that backfired on him by confirming my suspicion of his identify. I obtained the picture from his California driver’s license and showed it to his neighbors at Kiyrat Arba. They identified him from the photo. I wrote an article affirming that Manning, heavily armed and an active member of the Israeli army, was living in a Jewish settlement. The Israeli government, until that moment, said it had no information about his location. He was extradited in 1993 and sentenced the next year to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole for 30 years. He is in a maximum-security prison in Florence, Colo.
Those who go through the Marva summer program are indoctrinated as thoroughly as Muslims who go overseas and are told they are part of a greater jihad for Islam. The results, given Israel’s close alliance with the United States, may not be negative for those in power in the United States, but it may be very negative for those Americans defined as the enemy, especially Muslims, should we suffer another 9/11. The program inculcates hatred and a belief in the efficacy of violence to solve the problems in the Middle East. It identifies Israel with militarism. It feeds the idea that a Jew born in Brooklyn has a birthright to settle in Israel that is denied to an American of Palestinian descent.
Jerusalem, aside from being one of the most beautiful cities in the world, is one of the most literate, creative and intellectual. Do these young men and women really know the best of Israel by spending eight weeks playing soldier and glorifying the military? Is the cause of Israel advanced by mirroring the twisted militarism of Islamic fundamentalists?
Terrorists arise in all cultures, all nations and all religions. We have produced more than our share. Ask the people of Vietnam or Iraq. The danger of a military program such as these is that it solidifies a mind-set of us and them. It romanticizes violence. It widens the divide that leads to conflict. It makes dialogue impossible. There are great Israeli institutions, from the newspaper Haaretz to the courageous Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem to Peace Now. A summer working for them, rather than wearing an army uniform, unleashing bursts of automatic fire in the desert and singing Israeli patriotic songs, might actually help.
My buddy, Andre and I, having a discussion about the NWO, who runs it, and some solutions.
He runs this forum: Andre’s Outlaw Forum
here is the thread where the following can be found Alan Watt banned?
I have read a bunch of the books he quotes, 25 or more, and he has been right about everything so far. Maybe that leads to a tendency to think he is right about everything. I don’t know. I have never found him to be wrong. He certainly goes in a direction that no one else goes, and much deeper into all of this. I see him really as going further with the same information Bill Cooper put out. He also denied that it was a Jewish conspiracy.
This is all semantics. We know the monsters don’t follow the torah, nor are they sephardic so they have no ties to biblical israel so calling them “jewish” is actually incorrect… they are however KHAZARIAN ashkenazi sabbateans/frankists/kabbalists which are corrolaries or derivatives of rabbinic talmudism.
Watt never explains how “they” control and scapegoat the “jews” unless of course they are one and same… They certainly hide behind the religion.
You keep talking about how he speaks of a “mysterious, omnipresent, omnipotent “they”", and this makes it seem as if you are just too lazy to look at what he is actually saying, and would rather be able to point at some extremely public and easily identified group.
no bro, he IS saying, “they” and never explains who “they” are except the “psychopathic elite/royalty”. when you WON’T identify an enemy and you make the enemy seem omnipresent/omnipotent you make folks catatonic. Simply from reading your posts here and seeing that you never went through with any of your plans to start educating people outside of a website (which now rarely gets updated) is good example of this. i would say as you started getting more and more into watt your actual ‘activism’ (for lack of a better word) has almost disappeared.
What we are talking about here is ancient priesthoods who created “civilization”. Our domesticated existence is completely unnatural. I have always understood this. Alan was the first person I heard say it. We are living in a complete system, that destroys the human being. Everything about it is unnatural.
Living in the woods, hunting and gathering, naked is not ‘natural’ for ‘man’ either. I love your primitivist idealism but man was made to continue to advance and become globally conscious at which point the beauty of Islam would manifest itself to him and he would unify globally under its banner. The idea that making a skyscraper or an airplane or a rocket is somehow ‘evil’ and ‘unnatural’ is a severe miscalculation of man’s purpose. There was never a utopia to go back to but that’s not a knock on “civilization” but rather man’s nature to conquer his surroundings unless his nature is tempered and curtailed by adherence to enlightened Divine Law.
You also quote people - you base your philosophy on the words of well known propagandists
Such as whom? Can you document this claim?
We have all heard the story of the Rothschilds taking over by lending the monarchys money that they couldn’t pay back. It is mainstream. And it makes no sense. They had armies, and they were the same people who had ruled for thousands of years. They would not let this happen. It’s madness to believe such a thing, but you have a one track mind.
That’s excruciatingly cute that you think I have a ‘one track’ mind. But it’s not so simple as just financing one king/monarch. They would play on the King’s greed and lust for power while doing the same to a rival king. Britian doesn’t wanna pay its loans? Finance France… better yet, finance both and have them fight each other. Waterloo. who lied? who profited? It never ceases to amaze me how you have to create convoluted theories that makes NO sense to avoid historical fact.
“But khan, Britian and France’s royalty were blood relatives, why would they fight for rothschild? They just decided to have some fun with these wars cuz they were bored. And why NOT just give all the money to the Rothschild family to finance both, I mean they brought them in to run the money!”
Hilarious.
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I would like to hear what exactly you think the solution to all this is.
Get rid of usury/central banks. Redistribute land and resources. Implement zakat, help humanity recover to a more just and easily achieveable higher standard of living for all. Use technology to create the basic necessities of life and teach humans to be self-sufficient.
“BUT KHAN TECHNOLOGY WAS CREATED BY “THEM” and is “EVIL”
uh.. anyway.
You say the Jews took over in the 1700s, so we should go back there, any live in complete slavery?
Khazarian Sabbatean Bankers took over then or late 1600’s as the power of Catholicism was on its decline.
The globe was under complete slaveryin the 16/1700s? How so? That’s news to me. Did a Prussian prince run Uganda or something?
Or should we go back another couple hundred years? Or another thousand, to Rome?
How about we go forward to the Globally united Islamic empire, coming in about 2 centuries or less?
Which slave system ruled by a tiny elite minority do you want?
The one by ruled by the tiniest minority. The One Lord Sovereign. Globally united mankind under God. Indivisible. With Justice & Love for ALL.
I’m willing to be a slave of only God, in fact I already am in rhetoric, action will hopefully come soon.
How about yourself? How far [i]back[/i] do you wanna go?
A couple million years?
That is what civilization is. It has never been any different. Give a single example.
Andalucia: 800-1400
I have asked this several times before, and you have never answered.
Sorry about that. I thought I did. There’s one.
I would also like to see you answer this question that I posed to you last week:
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9703#9703
I’m sorry I don’t visit this site as often as yourself. Our post counts are indicative of that. Things disappear in the memory hole on your forum. I don’t have time to sift through every thread I posted in to see if someone responded to me.
If you don’t see the same future as the rest of us see, with the plagues and police state lock-down ultimately leading to population reduction, cyborging and a complete Brave New World reordering of everything, then what exactly do you happening? Or, I suppose, what do you think their plan is? If culling us off and turning us into robots isn’t that important, than what is?
Let’s rephrase that.
“Khan since you’re the ONLY nutcase who doesn’t conform to what we ALL believe here, which is total and complete enslavement of humanity as it is merged with machines, then in your retarded world view what do you see happening?”
3rd World War. Nuclear War. Nuclear Holocaust. They hope to make it between America/Europe vs China/Russia to break all power and resistance, then make Israel the capital of the world and select a global monarch Anti-Christ Messiah. The population reduction will definetely occur in a nuclear war. Actually it’s probably the most efficient means to do so.
However with this nuclear war, which is far more important to the ominpotent, amorphous “they” than microchipping Billy Bob in texas who is already effectively enslaved to his television and his pension check, they will unwittingly destroy their own power structure.
The real NEW WORLD ORDER of Islam which has been quietly brewing since the late 1800’s with ONE GLOBAL KHALIFA in existence today, will then take over the reigns and free mankind from its enslavement to all ideologies contrary to man’s nature and Islam will spread among the survivors of the nuclear war.
A globally united humanity under Islam will result. Man’s arrogance in rejecting the creator effectively breaking his own back makes him willing to submit to the One God.
This was prophecized and will happen.
Whose side do you wanna be on?
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler - pdf
Nazism is Zionism - a chapter from a book on einstein by CJB - pdf
Hitler’s jewish soldiers (a primer) or
Coppable if you’re so inclined
Hitler’s secret backers (documentation on the banking interest that funded his rise)
here’s a sample of what we’re talking about:
The Nuremberg Laws of September 1935, the finishing touches of Germany’s pre-Second World War anti-Jewish legislation, were defended by the Nazis as an expression of their pro-Zionism. They had at least the tacit approval of the wiser heads amongst the Jews themselves. As it happened – and naturally it was more than mere coincidence – every nationwide Jewish organ in Germany was under temporary ban when the laws were promulgated – except the Rundschau. It published the codified restrictions with a commentary by Alfred Berndt, the editor-in-chief of the German News Bureau. Berndt recalled that, only two weeks before, all the speakers at the World Zionist Congress in Lucerne had reiterated that the Jews of the world were to be correctly seen as a separate people unto themselves regardless of where they lived. Well then, he explained, all Hitler had done was to meet “the demands of the International Zionist Congress by making the Jews who live in Germany a national minority”.
from this Chapter in a mild book, “Zionism in the age of Dictators”
now check it:
Ultra-zionist jew, Samuel Untermeyer’s speech from the NY times where he accuses jewish bankers of financing hilter:
“Revolting as it is, it would be an interesting study in psychology to analyze the motives, other than fear and cowardice, that have prompted Jewish bankers to lend money to Germany as they are now doing. It is in part their money that is being used by the Hitler regime in its reckless, wicked campaign of propaganda to make the world anti-Semitic; with that money they have invaded Great Britain, the United States and other countries where they have established newspapers, subsidized agents and otherwise are spending untold millions in spreading their infamous creed.
The suggestion that they use that money toward paying the honest debts they have repudiated is answered only by contemptuous sneers and silence. Meantime the infamous campaign goes on unabated with ever increasing intensity to the everlasting disgrace of the Jewish bankers who are helping to finance it and of the weaklings who are doing nothing effective to check it.”
or
Another copy of the Untermeyer speech
IG Farben run by Warburg (whose brother wrote the Federal Reserve Act in 1913) and Zyclon B supposedly used in the ‘chambers’
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Crucifixion-of-Jews.html
The First Holocaust of 6 million in 1919 (book) origins of holocaustolatry
3 hour discussion on these subjects by 2 GIANTS - mp3
and the very long video that puts it all together
Both supposed 9/11 truth investigators right??
nope, look @ difference in treatment… wanna know why?
cuz LC kids are yahudi and they are being funded by the BILLIONAIRE zionist SIMON family while Chris is independent and exposing the israeli connection…
simple, don’t be an idiot..
or be..
up to you..
Khanverse interviewed Chris Bollyn on Veteran’s day ‘06 in Chicago
here’s Bollyn in ‘06.
—————– Bulletin Message —————–
From: Prothink
Date: Feb 6, 2008 11:07 AM
Well lets break down some facts here to see if you can get the bigger picture:
Bollyn:
One of his articles had more smoking gun facts than ALL 3 versions of Loose Change.
He only received 2% of the attention of that Loose Change did yet was attacked by Homeland Security and after a kangaroo trial was later kidnapped.
Was putting out excellent facts right after 9/11 that had the case solved as early as 2002.
He was a real investigative journalist that actually did his own research instead of stealing other people’s work
Was viciously attacked in a CNN interview:
Now look at how Loose Change was treated, they were giving the Red Carpet treatment!:
Loose Change:
Movies have been seen over 100 million times on Google yet they can still roam around the country, and world for that matter, getting stoned in hotel rooms (not knocking marijuana but this would certainly be a reason to go after them if they were really a danger) and partying with out a care in the world that they produced such a wide ranging and “damaging” movie.
Promoted on Zionist-owned networks all over the world.
Reports from even NYC firefighters that they stole work from, I interviewed one, Paul Isaac who stated this and didn’t even give him credit for his research.
Their own quote on Air America: “We don’t want to point fingers at Israel for a number of different reasons,” I wonder what those reasons could be…
Questioned later by Eric Hufschmid about their views on who was responsible for 9-11, the producers said that the Israeli role was simply one of trying to warn the U.S. about a potential terror attack. While they are well aware of the evidence of Israeli involvement, the producers of Loose Change say it is more important to prosecute members of the Bush administration and worry about other issues later.
Deborah S. Simon received special thanks in the video’s credits for providing footage and other help in producing Loose Change. Simon told me that she even handed out copies of the video in front of the White House. Who is Deborah Simon, and why is she helping produce and promote Loose Change?
Deborah Simon (nee Cox) is married into the billionaire Simon family of Indianapolis. The family owns the Simon Property Group, Inc., which boasts as being the largest U.S. real estate company. The Simon family owns, develops, and manages more than 280 shopping malls in the United States and 50 similar properties in Europe and Japan.
The Simon family, strong supporters of Zionist causes, the Clintons, and the Democratic Party, also own the Indiana Pacers basketball team. The campus of the Jewish Federation of Greater Indianapolis is named after Max and Mae Simon, the parents of Melvin, Fred, and Herb.
More on the Simon family:
www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/s/simon/simons.html
Melvin Simon, the Brooklyn-born founder of the company, also owned a Hollywood production company and produced more than 20 films.
More notably, Simon has had business partnerships with both Larry Silverstein and the Australian-Israeli billionaire Frank Lowy, the leaseholders of the destroyed World Trade Center. In the late 1980s, Silverstein and Simon developed a mall in Manhattan together, and after 9-11, Simon teamed up with Lowy’s Westfield America in an attempt to take over the prestigious retail properties belonging to Taubman Centers, Inc. of Detroit.
Silverstein and Simon both sit on the advisory board of the Steven L. Newman Real Estate Institute of Baruch College in downtown Manhattan.
And you still think this Alex Jones/Loose Change/Aaron Russo camps are legit huh?
Happy truthing…
BOLLYN IS STILL MISSING AND HASN’T BEEN PHYSICALLY SEEN IN MANY MONTHS. LOOSE CHANGE ON THE OTHER HAND STILL GETS TO PARTY IT UP LIKE SOME TYPE OF ROCK STARS WITHOUT A CARE IN THE WORLD, NICE.
Chris Jon Bjerknes:
I suggest that the Moslem-American community pay careful attention to this town council meeting and learn from the Armenian-American community that you do not have endure intimidation. Fight back with cohesive, organized political action and you will win!
BUT DON’T YOU DARE SAY 6 MILLIONS JEWS DIDN’T DIE
Ending ties with No place for hate
Politics triumph?? Some of this is bullshit, to be sure.
so you might be wondering WHY IN THE HELL WOULD AN ORGANIZATION AGAINST DEFAMATION AND WHO HAS BEEN PERSECUTED IN THE PAST, WHO HATES “HOLOCAUST DENIAL” DENY ANOTHER GENOCIDE???
Here’s WHY:
JEWISH genoicide of Armenian Christians
watch this (forward past the first minute)
Chris Jon Bjerknes:
Some Jews are in a quandary to understand why any Jewish leader would hesitate to seize upon this opportunity to attack Turks and Moslems. These Jews evidently do not know the truth, which is that Jews perpetrated the Armenian genocide. These Jews perhaps do not realize that Mossad agents and other Jews perpetrate false flag terrorism against fellow Jews outside the “Jewish State” in nations like Iraq and Turkey in order to scare them into making aliyah to Israel. The Mossad agents of Israel organize groups to terrorize Jews and keep them segregated and afraid, and to create in them a desire to move to racist, apartheid Israel, where they can assist the Israelis in committing genocide against the Palestinians. While defaming Islam, these Jews who seek to seize upon and exploit the mass murder of 1.5 helpless Armenians to further the Jewish agenda to stigmatize Islam and Turks, these Jews make no mention of the racist, genocidal Jewish mythology of the Amalekites, let alone recall the fact that the Jews who murdered millions of Armenians believed that their Jewish God had commanded them to blot out the Armenian “Amalekites”.
I should also point out that crypto-Jews dominate Turkish society and absolutely control and lead the Turkish military, which oversees the government with a Stalin-like iron fist. Jews in Turkey prosper, while ethnic Turks struggle in poverty. Many Jews in Turkey hide their immense wealth, in part to avoid taxes and resentment. Many Jews in Turkey hide the fact that they are Jews. This has been going on for centuries.
so yea, the Quran endorses the Big Bang,
wait, actually, to be semantically accurate, the Quran gave a description of the beginning of THIS PHASE of universe being (RE) created, which 1300 years later was condensed into a body of knowledge related to the phenomena and peculiarities of the “big bang”:
[21:31] Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass (ratqan), then We clove them asunder (fataqna)? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
Notice the Quran calls on the the unbelievers (nonbelievers) SPECIFICALLY…. of course ATHEIST SCIENTISTS discovered/postulated the theoretical “BIG BANG”
slowface, slap, slap, slap…. even before ya’ll great grandparents were BORN.
Chapter on this subject from the 4th Khalifa of the Messiah’s Magnum Opus
Scientists however will always bark up any tree they find, which is good too, although, they take forever with this process and are pretty dogmatic and rigid with their BELIEFS (see Thomas Kuhn)….
This is why I think Dark Matter & String theory have been the biggest waste of human intelligence and money in the past few decades, exceeding exponentially the aid to Israel, since at least that makes it possible for thousands of muslims to enter paradise each year. Bad joke, with no proof, sure….
anyway, i digress….
here’s 30 “problems” with the “big bang” according to “experts” (PDF)
The Role of Jews in the African Slave Trade is well documented by JEWISH sources so any allegations of “hate” on the part of those who expose it is quite the adorable deflection.
Racism in Jewish Intellectuals
Rabbi: JEWS DOMINATED SLAVE TRADE
I’ve read this book: Buy it. EYE OPENING, you can’t get it at Borders or Barnes and Noble
More on the author, Tony Martin
And here is the excellent speech he gave on this subject in its many parts,
the first is embedded, the rest are links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=letYIxhp2tk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ijNY6942Kg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynTXoA1Sluk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5XfAAwsK2o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXESyT1YMc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng7L0vkRUXM&feature=related
Now watch this jewish racism in action:
Irv Rubin was chairman of the JDL, basically a huge jewish terrorist outfit, which committed mass crimes, including but not limited to the murder of Alex Odeh, chairman of the Palestinian anti-discrimination committee…
when you hear him in the videos call Steve Cokely an “animal” this ties in perfectly with the teachings of the Talmud and the Curse of ham myth whereby blacks are “subhuman” and are cursed by God to be the slaves of jews, which can also explain why the dark pigmented AFRICAN was essentially the only “race” SYSTEMATICALLY exploited, enslaved, by the JEWISH transatlantic slave trade:
which almost makes this funny: