Interesing discussion on the Phorum
We’re discussing the idea that they (khazar criminals) might try to assassinate Obama to catalyze a race war and begin a campaign against the public via that avenue. Other false flags they’ve attempted in the US have failed.
Jews in the media have promoted the idea that he would be killed. This story got lots of airtime (QUESTION WHY):
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hmV6W8jST-GWpeb9bKvkjljsvjXg
^ that lady married a “german-jewish marxist”, if that’s relevant
and look here, consider why they promoted this nonsense as if this fellow is even moderately important:
Don’t get me wrong, Obama has definitely taken all the steps of a good puppet, including AIPAC/Israel pandering, condemnation of hamas and hezbollah, and generally bending over backward for jews, IE common political protocol in America. JFK had to toe the line also…
But also, keep in mind Obama was involved in Pro-Palestinian efforts just a few years ago. (he’s only been in congress about 6 years) He also called out the Zio-Khazars responsible for the Iraq war, IE, wolfowitz and perle in 2002:
I don’t oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.
Hillary, however has been in office much longer, has done crimes they can blackmail her for, is probably khazar, if not certainly, and is very willing to be a puppet. Also her campaign is full of khazars and israeli-firsters who’ve done crimes. Obama has people in his campaign that have been called anti-semites like Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter’s national security advisor.
Notice how this so-called truth movement are promoting the idea that Zbigniew is the biggest problem because he ‘created Al-Qaeda’… I’m not saying he’s on the side of the populous but I will say he seems to be very uncomfortable with the close Israel/US alliance as it undermines the American empires own best interests as elucidated in the Mearshiemer/Walt book, “The Israel Lobby”
They’ve called him an anti-semite.
^Maybe they are just paranoid (controllers being controlled by their need to control)
And now the “truth movement” is also attacking him like good lemmings when the bigger and scarier wolves are in Clinton’s campaign.
Just something to watch for because essentially Obama has won and the democratic party is being torn apart by the khazars who want hillary to win because their suspicions about Obama.
Wallaho Allam (God knows best)
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Interesting take. He’s right in a way. Americans need to bring their runaway credit based debt buying to a rapid halt and stop the chains of this criminal war profiteering to extent they have control… Can we wake up?
The Most Powerful People in America
By Joel S. Hirschhorn
16/04/08 “ICH” — – They are not the rich and superrich, nor the politically powerful running the two-party plutocracy, nor the greedy heads of banking and finance companies, and certainly not the media moguls and bloviating pundits.
The most powerful people are US, American consumers that account for over 70 percent of the economy. It is exactly now, when the economy is in the toilet, that consumers hold the maximum power. So why are we the people still deluding ourselves that the path to a better future rests on electing a new president?
We are suckers, conditioned by decades of clever marketing and advertising to believe the lies of politicians, and worst of all to believe that elections and our votes provide us with power. Wrong. Our real power can only be manifest through our spending dollars.
The overwhelming majority of Americans have been severely damaged by economic oppression by government policies that have produced historic economic inequality. Yet, despite revolting conditions, Americans seem unwilling to revolt by using their remaining economic power. They have let themselves become economic slaves.
What is amazing and depressing is that there are no national leaders from the worlds of politics, religion, education, media or public interest that are attempting to harness consumer power at this critical time. No one is capturing the public’s attention by making it crystal clear that consumers could obtain any political or economic reform in the public interest by joining together to withhold their discretionary spending.
Where are the anti-Iraq war leaders? Why are they not shouting about forcing an immediate commitment to ending the Iraq war by using the power of a massive consumer boycott that clearly could destroy the whole economy? Tell President Bush that consumers will greatly curb their spending for a month to give him time to implement a plan for withdrawal from Iraq. Make it clear that the coming federal rebates will not be used for spending. Make it clear that Bush inaction will result in continuation of the boycott.
Where is Ralph Nader, the ultimate consumer advocate? Why is he not proclaiming the brilliance of a consumer boycott as the winning tactic to force effective government assistance to the millions of Americans screwed by the sub-prime mortgage fiasco and about the lose their homes?
Where is Barack Obama, who supposedly wants to produce change? Rather than putting all his energy into satisfying his egoistic hunt for the presidency, why is he not talking about harnessing consumer power right now to get political reforms, like .ending trade agreements that are destroying the middle class? Why does he not send a clear message to his million-plus contributors to join a national consumer boycott to obtain immediate concessions from the Bush administration?
Where are the professors who have published books making the case for a second constitutional convention as the way to restore American democracy? Not one has the courage to say that the way to get Congress to obey Article V of the Constitution and convene that the first Article V convention is by American consumers threatening to plunge a dagger into the heart of American business.
Now is the time for all the millions of Americans that make up the 81 percent who see the nation on the wrong track to take action, to think like patriotic revolutionaries and take the power that now only exists with their spending. Sounds simple. All this strategy needs is leadership. Rather than spending so much time and energy on the media-hyped presidential campaign, we the people should demand that someone step forward to inform and mobilize consumers to become powerful citizens by using their spending as the ultimate populist political weapon.
My community, the Ahmadi Muslims feel fortunate to be the only ones free from Zionist/Freemason/Illuminati subjugation, not only by the promise of God to the founder, The Promised Messiah (as) but also in practical history and our the spiritual direction and Divinely-Guided leadership.
However Just as the Jews rejected Jesus (as), the Muslims rejected their messiah, Ahmad (as). Today they say Ahmad’s followers collude with the Zionists. On the other hand we’ve proven this is inaccurate several times but nothing can be as poignant as what I am going to present here.
One of the followers of Ahmad (as), The Promised Messiah, was a humble warrior of Islam in both the religious and secular fields, Muhammad Zafarullah Khan. This man wielded a razor sharp sword of Truth and God elevated his status in the secular to the President of the 17th General Assembly in the UN and eventually to the head of the International Court of Justice.
His bold championing of the cause of Palestine, Eritrea, Kashmir, Islam, and most importantly, JUSTICE, is immortalized in the halls of the UN and in the fact that THOUSANDS of Muslims in countries as disparate as Indonesia and Jordan named their children Zafarullah because of this man’s unrelenting courage to stand in the Monster’s Den and speak the uncompromised TRUTH.
The following is a brief excerpt from the linked PDF transcript of his speech during the deliberations in the UN on Palestine. This speech resulted in a decision AGAINST the creation of Israel (unjust partition of Palestine) which he presciently declared would adversely affect mankind for decades to come and would prove a huge obstacle for World Peace. The Zionists then pressured the countries who voted against the partition plan with a variety of threats, compelling them to acquiesce and create Israel.
The Arab nations and leaders lauded Zafarullah’s fight on their behalf and this speech is a testimony to his UNBIASED, Truthful and JUST point of view:
It is with satisfaction one notes, Mr. President, that you are anxious to secure, at least so far as this question is concerned, an undisturbed and influenced discussion. Whether the vote is going to be equally free and uninfluenced is no longer a matter for satisfaction. But I shall not dwell on that.
Those who have no access to what is going on behind the scenes have known enough from the press to have fear in their hearts not only on this question – because this is one individual question – but that the deliberations on crucial questions of this great body, on which the hopes of the world for the future are centered, will NOT BE LEFT FREE.
This is a solemn moment. Solemn in the history of the world, in the history of this great – let us hope at least – great organization. The United Nations is today on trial. The world is watching and will see how it acquits itself again, no so much from the point of view of whether partition is approved or not approved, but from the point of view of whether any room is left for the exercise of honest judgment and conscience in decisions taken upon important questions.
What is the ‘P” word that sends Zionists and Likudnuts everywhere into a hysterical rage? The “P” word is Peace. Peace or rather the prospect of peace sends Zionists and Likudnuts into a frenzy, running away from that word or that prospect as if it was laden with a fresh batch of plague from the Israel Institute of Biological Research, near Tel Aviv.
This is the mindset of America’s “only” friend in the ME, Israel. A mindset that is set on continuous war, as long as American money, weapons and in the case of Iraq, American troops are used to help prop up the racist and Apartheid State of Israel.
One of Israel’s bestest friends, the tragically inept buffoon Secretary of State Condi Rice, has joined this chorus of well trained parakeets, mouthing whatever line her Tel Aviv puppet masters tell her to, since above all else, whatever is done in regards to peace in the ME, whatever else is done, we must NOT talk to all parties trying to secure peace for Occupied Palestine.
Peace or even talk of peace is an idea repugnant to Zionists, who only prefer to talk in their standard mode, by letting the barking sounds of a .50 caliber machine gun, tearing thru the intestines of a pregnant mother in Hebron, letting those lethal projectiles talk all day long by letting Palestinians know just exactly what Zionists think of Peace.
Or by letting the crumping explosion of a not so smart bomb, letting that sound express Zionist thoughts, as it blows apart a refugee camp in Gaza, that kind of talk the Zionists will gleefully engage in all day long.
Or by letting the scream and subsequent thudding blast of a 155 mm artillery shell blowing apart a Palestinian family, trying to enjoy a day at the beach, letting that very deadly piece of twisted metal do all the talking the Israeli’s plan to do in regards to Peace in Palestine.
These are the only types of conversations the Zionists are willing to hold with the constantly under siege Palestinians.
That is, until all the Palestinians are either murdered, forcibly moved or starved to death by the world’s “most” moral army, the IDF.
Peres: Carter damaged peace process
Former US president Jimmy Carter was immediately criticized upon his arrival in Israel Sunday by President Shimon Peres, who told him that his plans to meet with exiled Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal were a “severe mistake.”
Peres - who, like Carter, is a Nobel Peace Prize laureate - said Mashaal was an extremist and an illegitimate leader who had given orders to kill Israelis. Far from swaying Mashaal to change his ways, a conversation between the two men would harm the chances for peace, he said.
Carter met on Sunday night with the parents of kidnapped IDF soldier Cpl. Gilad Schalit. In a closed-door conversation over tea in the King David Hotel, where the ex-president is staying, Noam Schalit asked Carter to help advance a deal to free his son, who has been held by Hamas for 33 months, when Carter meets with Mashaal later this week in Syria.
“We spoke. We asked him to use his influence to help us,” Schalit told The Jerusalem Post after the meeting.On Monday, Carter is slated to visit both Sderot and Barzilai Medical Center in Ashkelon.
But neither choice endeared him to the Israeli public. Carter, who brokered the 1979 peace deal with Egypt, was off to a chilly start, both because of the impending meeting with Mashaal and his 2006 book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, which compared Israeli actions in the West Bank with the racial oppression that once reigned in South Africa.
So the aging diplomat in a gray suit, who slipped quietly into the lobby of the King David Hotel on Sunday evening, did not draw the attention of top Israeli politicians.
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Defense Minister Ehud Barak have all declined to meet with him, citing “scheduling problems.” Likud chairman Binyamin Netanyahu did not want to meet with the ex-president, either.
“There is no doubt that Jimmy Carter as a former president should be greeted as a matter of protocol, but it does not mean that the prime minister, the foreign minister and certainly the opposition leader have to meet him,” Netanyahu adviser Uzi Arad told Israel Radio.
Foreign Ministry officials, meanwhile, told the Post that Carter’s visit placed Israel in a no-win situation, adding that the story of his visit here was sparking some interest in the US press, which was following to see what kind of reception he would receive.
On the one hand, the officials said, a complete snub of the ex-president would not look good in the US, where Carter still enjoyed some clout and public stature by virtue of his former position. On the other hand, meetings with Israeli officials could be used by Carter to bash the Israel lobby in the US.
He was likely to use these meetings to cast the Israel lobby in Washington as hysterical, one diplomatic official said, portraying his Jewish critics in the US as trying to outdo Israel in their criticism of him, since Israeli officials were willing to meet with him.
Carter’s upcoming talks with Mashaal has met with criticism in the US as well, including among State Department officials and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
Such a meeting would be the first in two years between Hamas and a prominent American figure.
But before heading off to Israel, Carter, in an interview with the ABC News program This Week, said he felt “quite at ease” about meeting Hamas members over the objections of Washington, because the Palestinian group was essential to a future peace with Israel.
“I think there’s no doubt in anyone’s mind that, if Israel is ever going to find peace with justice concerning the relationship with their next-door neighbors, the Palestinians, that Hamas will have to be included in the process,” he said.
Although he said the meeting would not be a negotiation, he outlined distinct goals.
“I think that it’s very important that at least someone meet with the Hamas leaders to express their views, to ascertain what flexibility they have, to try to induce them to stop all attacks against innocent civilians in Israel and to cooperate with the Fatah as a group that unites the Palestinians, maybe to get them to agree to a cease-fire - things of this kind,” he said.
The State Department has said it advised Carter twice against meeting representatives of Hamas, which Washington considers a terrorist organization.
“I find it hard to understand what is going to be gained by having discussions with Hamas about peace when Hamas is, in fact, the impediment to peace,” Rice said Friday, after reports of the planned meeting surfaced.
Carter said he had not heard the objections directly, although a State Department spokesman said earlier that a senior official from the department had called the former president.
“President Carter is a private citizen. We respect his views,” Stephen Hadley, the US national security adviser, said Sunday on This Week.
“The position of the government is that Hamas is a terrorist organization, and we don’t negotiate with terrorists. We think that’s a very important principle to maintain,” Hadley said. “The State Department made clear we think it’s not useful for people to be running to Hamas at this point and having meetings.”
Asked whether it was right to meet a group that had not renounced violence or recognized Israel, Carter said, “Well, you can’t always get prerequisites adopted by other people before you even talk to them.”
Pressure to drop the meeting has come from his own party. Democratic Reps. Artur Davis of Alabama, Shelley Berkley of Nevada, Adam Schiff of California and Adam Smith of Washington state wrote a letter to Carter, saying the meeting could confer legitimacy on a group that embraces violence.
“I’ve been meeting with Hamas leaders for years,” Carter said.
Carter is among a growing group of critics who think that the policy of isolating Hamas has been counterproductive. Several months ago, a group of prominent former senior US officials - including Brent Scowcroft and Carter’s own national security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski - called for “genuine dialogue” with the Islamic group.
During his visit to the region, Carter also plans to meet with the presidents of Egypt and Syria, as well as the king of Saudi Arabia
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